I cant use the words "beginners bow" with him. Even though he pretty much is beginning, he HAS to get what looks fancy, which is why Diamond is at the top of his list because they have that look to them, that "decked out" look, and because he found out they were a brand of Bowtech. So nothin less than $600 will do for him. Ya i think that Rage One looks like a real good one, especially since he claims to have a 31" draw length, and that bow goes to that. Bet he wont like it when he sees the IBO is less than 300....like it matters. Ill try. haha thanks by the way.