Exactly the point. Well put there pj. As long as your dogs does everything you expect it to and are happy with your ne best friend thats all that matters. My main concern with my labs is that they hunt and retreive the way I want them too. I don't care about having a perfect dog who is a big name dog in the industry. All that matters to me is that my dog loves me and loves to work for me and I can return them the favor by taking them on fun hunts and showin them a good time. Wing shooting is one of my greatest passions mainly because I love to see dogs doing what they love and watching them work and seeing how proud they are when they are done. I run coon dogs as well and if it wasn't for the excitement you see in those dogs and the singing of there voices on tree, none ofthe long sleepless nights and miles of chasingwould be worth it. Hope you find what you are looking for and have great luckwith them. WCL