I'm from your neck of the woods. I used to live in Murphys CA. I've golfed at Rancho Murieta golf course several times. Now for your question on wall tents, I've used both kinds, both are tough and fairly water resistant, although I've found both leak right in the seams under heavy rains. We've had up to 14" of snow on them, they sagged alot, but hung in there. We now cover them with blue tarps and they work great. The snow for the most part slides off and have no trouble in strong winds as long as you fasten them down good. We usually leave them up for 6 weeks at a time. The internal frame is the only way to go. They're fast and easy to put up, they weigh about a hundered pounds for a 12x14 or a 16x20 with 5ft walls. One guy can put up the 12x14 but 12x16 would be tough for one man. I would'nt recommend more than 4 guys in the small tent, if more you need the big one. A woodstove will heat either one very good. Both are designed to be packed by horses or mules. Hope this helps. elknut1

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