My brother got his grandson a nef in 270 so he could hunt with him at thanksgiving.He got me to mount a scope and zero it for him,I didn't have time to drive to the range but mounted the scope and shot into a stump 20 yds from my back porch,He had given me a box of remington low recoil bullets that were 115 gr core-loc ultras.Didn't take but 2 shots to zero about an inch above a small dot,then I shot 5 rounds into one hole off hand.The boy didn't get to shoot at a deer after all but the rifle did very well at 20 yds.