Save your money as far as the Crimson talons go . Bought a pack of three last week and shot them today . I shoot a PSE firestorm X and from 25 yards out they fly to the right on every shot . At first I thouht it might just be me that was off so I shot my feild points a few times and then my mechs. It was'nt me that was off or an out of tune bow . Just my 2 cents .