Don't know exactly what happened, if he were shot, sick, old or predators. But he has some really nice character. Including 2 stickers 2 inches long coming of the back of both 14" G2's. I at least feel fortunate enough to have found him and think about what a bruiser he probably was. He had 14 scorable points. He grossed out at 156+. Going to try and get a Euro mount done on him if I find someone to do it. He's kind of ripe.[:'(]