walmart orders in 1000s at a time...they order more remingtons and winchesters than savages because less people want savages when they can sell the better guns for around the same price...savages are ok guns they do have some higher grade guns but id rather have a model 70 any day..they way i see it if you wait and save your pennys you cna buy the better rifle and never need another one..where cheaper guns break and dont shoot for beans alot of times....guns ammo and scopes are the things i never skimp on...i mean sure i could shoot 9$ corelokts that i lost 2 deer with one of whiche was a good hit but high and never expanded so it didnt hit the spine or lungs when my dad hit one the same place it never took another breath because a ballistic tip hit the spine and the lungs...sure i could buy a tasco that one already broke on my causeing my bullets to fly untrue and making me wound and loose 2 deer and miss one..now i either reload or shoot premiums and bought a leupold...and im 15...pennys are hard to come by!...ive always heard remingtons and whinnys are better than savage but ive heard good things about a few savages..and i have a semi 22 thats a savage and love it...a neat little gun and a good shooter...never malfunctions...i like it...play with a few and see what you like best...ask around to guys you know that hunt and see what they use and how it shoots and if they had problems...my walmart sells model 70s for like 360 with a simmons 3x9...sure its a 30$ scope but thats still cheap for the gun bases rings and all....and i agree if you find the right gunshop you will think you hit a gold mine..but ive also seen guys selling remington 700s for 750-800...just standard 700s! my sucker of a friend bought one he got it for like 550 or somthing and told me it was on sale like 200 or 250 off! thats crazy....that guy must not sell much except to people like him that dont know any better...shop around if you have the time...