I have a handful of bitz's, a brand new BPE pro just received yesterday, and some Martin J-8's. For the money I think the BPE's are going to be the way to go. Its hard to use anything other then my bitz's though if money isnt a consideration. The martin J-8's are just junk! I took them on a good "deal" for 3 and wish I would have never seen them!