Just for the record, I never said I havent wounded and animal. It happens, and if you hunt long enough it probaly will happen. I did say that I never lost an animal do to lack of penetration. Ok that being said ARTHUR P, you argue the fact that a 25 grain heavier broadhead wont do didly sqaut for TFOX's daughter set up, so why have to increase just to make a minimum weight if what she is shooting already works.