Yes I have pics of both birds, but I'm to computer stupid to post them. JW! was here and I'll ask him to post the pics for me. JW! please.
However, can't resist. The closest JW! got to a bird is the one he's holding over my head and in his arms, and on the hood of his truck. dog1

PS: We have a bird here on our property that we named, Seasonalmouth, and bad as I hate to, I must state, that bird kicked JW!s' Wisconsin butt at least two times, that's two times, ain't that right JW!, or was it more. dog1