Those Spitfires are Gobbler Getters and are supposed to smash their way through and provide some shock on the way through. I am sure Scorpios are still a good idea with or without the Gobbler Getters. Only problem I have with the Scorpio Grapplers is the fact that the turkey might be flailing away with a sharp broadhead sticking out so maybe the Gobbler Getter and Scorpio is a good idea. I haven't used the Gobbler Getters by they look like they'd slow the turkey down a bit. Better yet a 2 oz load of lead shot! LOL!