I shot these from a Mossberg 835, at 25 yards the pattern was already huge, deadly, but way too big. At 50 yards there weren't many holes at all on a poster sized piece of paper, only 1 in a 8 inch circle. This was with a super full choke. With a modified results were slighty better, 9 in a 8 inch circle...still way under par. Is there any secret to get these to pattern? I bought two boxes after I heard nothing but good results, but my 20 gauge patterns way better!