Official Rules.
 

1. Deer(whitetail/mulie/blacktail)must be taken legally and ethically as laws apply in the state your hunting including tags.

2. Archery equipment only which include crossbows, compounds, longbows and recurves. One bow contest only.

3. Antlered deer only (whitetail, mule, blacktail)including antlered doe, if it's tagged with a buck tag, it's in.

4. We will be using the Pope & Young Gross/Green scoring system, no deductions. Velvet bucks scored the same. (See percentages below)

Whitetail (as norm):125/125 = score x 1
Columbia blacktail: 125/90 = score x 1.39
Sitka blacktail: 125/75 = score x 1.67
Mule deer: 125/145 = score x 0.86

5. Open to all members new and old unless your signed up in another bow contest on HNI(only), please don't sign up and disappear, you'll be replaced. No more than 10 persons per team, drawn randomly....alternate's when necessary starting with first come first serve....I'll oversee it.

6. Signup begins July 15th, Deadline to join is Sept 1st , with alternates then being taken until Oct 1st or as needed to complete teams. (amended by majority vote, teams picked after 420 signups, in fear of not enough alts, alts being taken as needed and possible new teams formed drawn randomly)

7. You must have a pictured posted on the contest page within the Official Score Card thread to enter a deer. The bow must be in the picture and the entire deer must be in the picture, no skull pictures, no rack pictures...the buck, the bow, and yourself must be in the picture.....call me skeptical. This rule will be enforced this year, no exceptions with no apologies.

A) Within this post, the measurements as required by the P&Y scoring sheets shall be listed. Example as follows.

B) Right ----- Left
MB 18 6/8 ----- 17 4/8
G14 ----- 3
G26 4/8----- 6
G36 4/8 ----- 4 6/8
G44 4/8 ----- 1
G51 -----

H15 6/8----- 6 2/8
H24 4/8 ----- 4 4/8
H34 4/8----- 5 6/8
H43 6/8----- 3 2/8

Inside spread 15 4/8

Abnormal points
1. 4
2.
3.



8. Total number of inches of all team member's animals will decide the winner....see rule 4.

9. You must enter the first bow kill antlered deer you get.....second buck for you lucky states will not count. First buck means first taken regardless of multi state hunts.

10. No penned shot deer accepted, deer must be a free range wild animal regardless private or public land. Guided hunts acceptable as long as the animals are free range.

11. All disagreements, controversies and conflicts will be decided on by a majority vote from a panel consisting of Team Capt's and moderators participating within the contest. Those decisions will be final.

12. Contest deadline is Feb 15th.

13. Rules set forth for a smooth contest, the main rule is to have fun and enjoy your fellow teammates and all the smack talk that goes along with this contest. :D

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Rob were going to post scores in this format this year?

Right ----- Left
MB 18 6/8 ----- 17 4/8
G14 ----- 3
G26 4/8----- 6
G36 4/8 ----- 4 6/8
G44 4/8 ----- 1
G51 -----

H15 6/8----- 6 2/8
H24 4/8 ----- 4 4/8
H34 4/8----- 5 6/8
H43 6/8----- 3 2/8

Inside spread 15 4/8

Abnormal points
1. 4
2
3
4
5
6

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Rob
I agree with Germ thathunters should post the scoringparameters of their entry in their individual team threads.

I think it would also be interesting (from a data analysis perspective) to require entrants to post the date &time that they shot at their deer, and location (State/Province).

-fsh

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Sounds good to me and it's required to score it so it's easy to put it on the post.

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Rob:

Just in case.....any rule on a buck in velvet?

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Measured the same as above from what I understand.

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what does this mean i get the g part but that is h?

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Like the G measurements (tines) the H measurements are your circumference measurements.

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Has anyone been able to find the scoring sheets in a word format? The only way that I was able to find it is in PDF format.

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Tried to convert it for you from the P&Y website but it didn't work out well enough to be of use.

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Whitetail (as norm):125/125 = score x 1

What does the 125/125 partmean? Pardon my ignorance.

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That is the minimum score for a PY WTD. That is what the contest is based off of so it is the norm (no multiplier). To allow other type of animals they compare the minimum scores to that of the whitetail and you get the multiplier. Correct me if I am wrong.

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Exactly.

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I have it in Word format. PM me with your email and I can send it to you.

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You must enter the first bow kill antlered deer you get.....second buck for you lucky states will not count. First buck means first taken regardless of multi state hunts.

What is the reasoning here ?

I will be hunting 4 different states.

I would think it is a contest for a big buck, If he was buck #1 0r #4 we are still looking for the biggest one.

Seems to be a little tough on guys that hunt Mule and whitetails.

I am not trying to start any trouble - just asking.

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This rule is in place as many/most are not fortunate enough to hunt states that allow multiple tags for antlered deer. It's not fair to a team consisting of one tag states to compete against teams that have states that allow multiple tags. Multitag state hunters can shoot a little buck and then hang out for a large buck, that's not a fair comparison to others who have to tag the first and only buck who hangs for a bigger one. This is strictly enforced so if you shoot one, you should enter it or your next one will be disqualified.

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COOL

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Rob is it okay to be in the HNI gun contest as well?

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Rob...so We score our own deer right??

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Yes, that is fine, enjoy both.

Yes, the honor system, score you own deer, following rule number 4 and 7.

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What about a picture of a license and/or tag of the state where the animal was harvested? Proves the buck was not taken on a ranch(high fence) and it was taken legally. Picture w/ license/tag and animal.-------- Just a thought?

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That's very difficult as many states don't require a tag at all so we won't know. I personally take all my pictures before putting in the ear tag cause it's just so stupid. It would be hard to control and we need to trust one another, if the deer and the bow and the shooter's in the pic, what else can we assume?

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Rob what about sitka deer we have some friends from alaska in the contest??????

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Wouldn't they be the Sitka Blacktail already in the list?

Whitetail (as norm):125/125 = score x 1
Columbia blacktail: 125/90 = score x 1.39
Sitka blacktail: 125/75 = score x 1.67
Mule deer: 125/145 = score x 0.86

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OOPS my fault once again DUH Bob LOL.

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Yep thats team 44 for you.;)

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just so everyone knows theres a good site for scoring your deer, adds up the scores and everything for you, just make sure you take the gross score off the bottom not the net

www.luckybuck.org then go to score your deer or something like that. IDK if u can copy and paste it right over but it makes it easier. FYI

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Being a newbie to this site, I'm curious why the bowhunt only includes deer? P&Y scoring to my knowledge is all linear relative to the size of the racks. You're using multipliers to compensate for average size per species. So why not include Elk and even any of the other ungulates that we hunt in NA?
Most people on this site are rabid WT hunters and I can respect that, but there are a lot of us that are just as rabid about elk hunting. Just a thought.

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Simple, there are deer in every state depending on species and I'd bet, everyone hunts them or has opportunity to hunt them. Elk, not so much.;)

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I'm not on a team, but if a guy were to get a buck like this, would his team mates kick him off the team?:D

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i wouldnt that deer could be the game winner. it only takes 1 inch to win and i bet that deer has 6

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No Windwalker7, it's all about fun and one never knows, that deer could be put a team over the top. I'd be the first to congratulate the shooter and BHJ, I'd bet that deer scores more than 6...figure spike measurements, inside spread and let's say 2 circum measurements per side...;)

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So then maybe next year you should call it the "2008 Deer BowHunting Contest"[8D]. You might check your stats, I don't believe Hawaii has any of the three deer types you specify.. but they have some great hog hunting.

Hopefully in the next 50 years the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation will have found a way to introduce Elk to all fifty states so all you Whitetailers can have a chance to hunt this magnificent animal.. I'm not holding my breath on it though:D

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Maui Wes used to post here on a regular basis, from the conception of the forums and is a deer friend of ours. You can bet your ass he was hunting deer...not sure which species now... but we would accomodate it.

Let me ask you, you come up with the right multiplication and specs and we'll consider it. Wouldn't want to leave anyone out but your telling me, You don't hunt deer of any species? ;)

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Oh yeah I hunt Mulies and Whiteflags when they happen to live in the same country as Elk.. which is typical for Mulies but not so much for Whiteflags as they stick to the river bottoms out west.

OK I won't rock the boat anymore but maybe food for thought next year.

You ever put in for any of the PA elk tags? According to RMEF PA has a good population of Elk now. I saw that a poacher in PAkilled and left lay an untypical that had the widest spread of any elk ever anywhere. People like that should be gutshot and left for dead.

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Axis deer in Maui.

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Is it too late to sign-up...at least as an alternate?

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Unfortunately turkeygirl2, it is. Sign ups run from July through August. Teams are filled and the contest has been running full. Make sure to watch for the team sign ups next year and continue to enjoy the entries. Good luck this season.

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Quick scoring question. I shot a 7 point, basic 6 point with a split brow. I'm assuming I only get 3 H (circumference measurements) correct?

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Everything gets 4 "H" measurements per side. On the 4 point side you measure between the burr and the g-1 (always the smallest measurement), the g-1 and the g-2, the g-2 and the g-3 then half the distance from the center of the g-3 to the tip of the main beam.

On the 3 point side, everything is the same but I think that you measure from the center of the g-2 to the tip of the main beam . Take that measurement and divide by 3 and take the H-3 and H-4 measurements that distance apart, starting from the center of the g-2.

Ex. If the measurement from the center of the g-2 to the tip of the main beam is 9".

9/3 = 3, so 3" from the center of the g-2 is where you take the H-3 measurement and 3" past the H-3 measurement is where you take the H-4 measurement.