BowHuntingFool, I just remembered, on one occasion we had a productive stand on a flat along a ridge that was productive. After finding a freeloader/tresspasser in the stand a few times I removed the spikes from the first 15 feet of the tree about 1/2 the climb. I drilled holes instead just a bit larger than the diameter of a 12" or 14" RxR spike thenhid them close but not too close to the tree. On each visit they where removed on they way down and placed back in hiding. Eachyear while checking the standthe holes wherere-drilled andeverything wasready for the season. I never did find that guy in the stand again but he still hunted in the area, too lazy I guess.

Paul