yah guys this is tricky these deer live in a neibor hood and behind houses its open land out behind it but its only a few acres an theres a chain link fence that runs behind the hosues so its gonna be interesting. you got to jsut keep walking!!!!!!!!!! and yah id hate to miss one bc of snow!! Im from the cape and i seem to find different shed in the same place every year!! now if i could only get em to come out in daylight with the racks still on there heads!!