And I respect you also, JRW. And mhogan and anyone else that will stand toe to toe with me and speak their thoughts clear and plain without having to resort to sophomoric insults.

I'm not ready to toss the baby out with the dirty water either. But when you look at things realistically, the water is going to wind up a lot dirtier before it's said and done, and the baby will have been chopped up into little bits and fed to the hounds. Can we find a way to preserve even a little portion of what we have rather than watch all of it swirl down the porcelain tuba? I don't think so, unless 'progress' gets to the point that a lot of compound shooters finally come to their senses.

An encouraging point is that I have begun to see some signs of that happening over the past year or so.

As far as P&Y being a private org and their rules not being legally binding, that's definitely true. That is, except for some states that based their bowhunting regs on those rules. Now we've got a lot of people are saying if it's legal then it's okay. But there was a time when bowhunters would abide by those rules just because they were THE RULES of bowhunting ethics. Manufacturers wouldn't even produce non-compliant gear because they believed it wouldn't be 'good for the sport.' Remember those days? It wasn't really that long ago.