tfox go to huntingfootage.com and then to miscellaneous videos then look for one that says form ground blind shooting......it has some video of my from on the first video and yeah hand torque might be one of the probs but i honestly think that something is wrong with the center shot say is i concentrate real hard at 20 yds like this past time i got all 3 arrows touching then the next they were all in a 4inch circle scattered