The gray wolf woolens I spent money on is about warmth, quietness, windproof, burr proof, and water repellency all in one fabric. Wolfskin is the cats meow and is the only material that I have seen and touched that is able to do all of the above. You usually give up quietness in a fabric when you try to get all of the above. I just can't see why people keep comparing products that we can see, feel, touch, and use to a product like carbon that is based on none of the above; it is based strictly on science and if science would confirm that the carbon can be reactivated/regenerated in my dryer I will buy some and stand on the highest mountain and praise the product for all to hear. I am still waiting for someone from the carbon companies to explain how their carbon is able to be reactivated/regenerated in a homeowners' dryer when all of the companies that specialize in carbon reactivation emphacize that it requires high heat and steam. I see the carbon clothing manufactureers on this thread and on the thread I have at AT, but they just lurk and won't get on here and explain why their carbon can do what other carbon companies carbon can't. They read my posts and but just ignore our questions.