I shot my white ultra mag today i had some bullshops great plains and white bullets in .460 and some shockwaves in 250gr. I am not a fan of loading the GP but they shot pretty well. The white bullets did not shoot well at all at 50 yards I was shooting about a 3" group. the bullshops shot the best about 1/2" group at 50 yrds. and 4" group at 100 yrds the shooters fault of course Im shooting with the peep sights. I could not get the rear sight high enough for elevation, so it was aguess where to hold at 100yrds. I found a front sight in my collection that will be low enough, so ill try that next time. I shot a couple weeks ago with bdeather and I was shooting a red dot scope and it was really hard to see, it was really sunny that day. the peep sight is more to my liking. I took some pics ill throw them on here tomorrow. the shock waves loaded very easy and shoot awful. I am new to this muzzle loading stuff and I took my 30/06 with a 3x9 and it felt like cheating a 100 yards, after shooting the first part of the day with peep sights.