Can't believe I missed this response............
ORIGINAL: TFOX
ORIGINAL: Rick James
The straightness tolerances on the A/C/C's are actually less than theX-weaves.
A/C/C's are a great all around arrow, however a goltip pro hunter is lighter, cheaper, more durable, straighter, and I honestly think the pin nock system is a higher quality component system than the easton system. If lighter isn't a priority for you, then just add more tip weight to get it where you want it and in turn you increase your FOC to come up with more forgiveness with fixed blade heads, windy conditions, etc. I also like the Carbon Express Maxima's as well however they are quite a bit more expensive than pro hunters and don't seem to have any more advantages and I still like pin nocks better than the bulldog collars.
I have spine tested Maxima's, Pro Hunter's, and A/C/C's at the shop on our spine tester and all produced excellent results.......all hadtolerances close enough to produce fantastic groups at distances well outside of any hunting condition.
First off,straightness is getting blown out of proportion in the arrow debate.The most accurate arrows in the world are .002 straightness.For broadhead flight,insert alignment and spine tolerances are way more important.Plus,I doubt that the arrows that are claiming .001 straightness will be that straight after shot a couple hundred times.(assumption on my part,have not tested them)
Rick,have you been able to test the .001 straight arrows after a couple hundred shots,I would be interested in seeing if they maintain that,even the carbon ones.Along with the spine after a couple hundred shots.
I know the ACC's I shoot have been shot alot for about 3 years now and shoot the same now as they did whenI got them.I NEVER had an all carbon shaft do that.
Ahair on your head is about .003 so .001 or .002 on an arrow isn't really even debateable.If you get into the .004 range,then it might become an issue.
I agree that the pin nock system is a more accurate system and the back end of an arrow is THE MOST IMPORTANT part of an arrow,this will tell the arrow what direction to go,however,the pin nock isn't even close to being as durable and forgiving to a back end hit.So for me and a hunting arrow that I slam into 3-d targets and bails(and get hit by "buddies").I prefer the uni system,for a long range target arrow,the pin nock would be my choice,but I would have alot of extras.Also,Easton uses pin nocks also,just not on the ACC's.(I know you are aware of this,just put it out there for those that don't)
What I like most about the ACC's is the wider range of spine.You can match them perfectly to about any setup.
Plus,I like the fact that the Easton's are made in the USA.
It is interesting to see all the varying opinions on different equipment.
Yes I have tested them. I have a1/2 dozen pro 22's with probably 2500 shots on each that I shot all summer last year. They all spined and spun well last time I fletched them in January for this season and I have been shooting some winning scores with them locally just recently.
There are several things I like about Gold Tips pin nock system. Last year, I got a dozen pro 22's about this time. I fletched the first 1/2 dozen up with easton 2115 super uni bushing components. That entire half dozen is sitting in a bucket with wrecked back ends from shooting groups and getting hit in 3D targets. They do not protect the carbon as well as a pin nock. The other thing is that with a pin nock, you either know it is bad or good, the easton components are difficult to see after a hard hit atunless you have an arrow spinner. I carry a little plastic baggie in my quiver at all times that has about 50 nocks, anda 1/2 dozen extra pins in it. If I question a nock, I change it immediately. I do look at them as a disposable component and I really think people don't change their nocks enough. I will go through 150-200 nocks and a couple dozen pin insertsin a summer/3D season because I will replace them frequently. The pin nock components also has a longer sleeve that goes inside the shaft to better align the nock to the inside shaft wall. It is approximately 2x as long as the easton component. When I was using easton components in my goldtips I would end up with 1-2 arrows in a dozen that didn't spin to acceptable tolerances due to component alignment, since switching to pin nocks I haven't seen that yet.
The other thing I like about the pin nock system as a 3D shooter is that when I stick one in a 12 ring, if someone else hits the back end of the arrow it deflects them often times well into the 10, sometimes even an 8.
Easton components don't seem to have quite this effect.
And not all of eastons are made in the USA. And the ones that are made in the USA..........calland ask where they buy the aluminum and carbon from. [8D]