Maybe you already have, but trail cams work excellent for pinpointing a bucks patterns. I have3 moultree cams that I use in different areas, But I'm going to reserve them for daylight hours. I feel the flash will scare larger bucks. I think I'm going to take the plunge and buy the Wildlife Eye. It's certainly expensive, but the results are incredible. No flash, infra-red technology, and short 20-30 second movie clips of your deer. You could probably pattern those bucks in a few weeks with a couple of good trail cams.......... Thatcreek-bottom looks awesome. Do you have any unwanted customers in there?