About the Grip on Martins...thats the only thing i dont like....What i did was go and get some wrap for a tennis Racket and wrap over the existing grip with it nice and tight,then tack the end of the wrap with some fletch or super glue so it stays put...it looks kind of CHEESY but it feels great...and is a cheap solution for those who dont like to feel any part of the metal riser....

ive never felt the thermal elite grip martin offers most...mines just the standard generic all rubber grip.