yeah superstrutter i hear your consern but i was doin it just as a fun matter im not the hunter where i am dead serious i need to kill whatever i do it for fun and thats why i like the support im not sayin what you said is all bull [you have way more expierence then me and you have taken and know birds] well all im doin is just having fun callin him and yeah i wouldve loved to see him to tell u the truth what i wanted him to do was make his way down the hill and pop up to the left in a field and then i was goin to stop calling ...but well i understand your concern again and i will be sure not to make that mistake agian ...but thisspring break im goin to a 375 acre ranch to go cut some mesquite and oak for b b q's and the owner there doesnt hunt turkeys so ill see if i can have some more fun with some of the turkeys over there......and i know you say dont gobble before season and why is that ...what are the pros and cons?