These people have too much time on their hands, and their thinking too hard.Some are innovative, but you sure as hell don't need that bent ladder to get up in a crooked tree..... Those crooks are easier to get up than the straight ones. I've bought a few stands that are light weight, for when I need to move around(Millenium & Gorilla)...But most of the stands I hunt in that stay stationary, I make myself. One piece of 3" channel iron, 3 pieces of 24" angle, and a tractor seat fron Farm & Country.Their the most comfortablestands I have. You have to be a bull to get-em up in trees, but It's worth it. At least for me anyway. I tend to stay away from ladder stands, I'd rather be perched up in a cedar or pine about 30-35'