thanks for the replys

the cool thing is I am not going to have to buy a tumbler at first I am going to be able to use mini mill with the corn cob media
these mills are no longer used so no one would even know what I have in them lol

there is a guy at work that is going to show me how to do it the first time

I got on ebay and looked at the prices ebay that I am going to be able to get the parts to load my 454 cas and by the time I load 100 of those my equipment will have covered itself
ammo has gotten extreemly cheap here since the new bass pro shop has oppened but I know that will more than likely be short lived but rounds that costed me 23 for 20 has gone down to 13 all except for the 454 cas

well thank you guys for the replys