My T/C is the Hawkens style of rifle. I think that it would be what you guys have been calling the Renegade since it looks just like the one in the picture that Sabotloader posted in his gravel pit thread. Its got the 28 inch barrel. I have been shooting with Pyrodex RS bp. I even tried some Goex FF and FFF and I think that the FFF shot a bit better than the FF did at short ranges. The REAL bullets did seem to fit just a bit loose, but not wobbly or anything, just looser than I am used to with the ball and patch.