RWK, I planted a new logging road last spring with a 50-50 mix of Tecomate Bucks and Bosses and Durana Clover. My pH was 5.8 and I was very happy with the results. The deer have a path worn down the middle of it and are also browsing it fairly well. You can get more info on Tecomate.com and Penningtonseeds.com on these two products.