Hank,

I wouldn't use 70 to 90 grains of 777 with a 295 PB, personally. IMO its more than ideal. 60 grains of RS would do just as good a job and result in better weight retention, deeper penetration, and far less wasted energy at the entrance point.

Chap,

Frankly, I don't care what Randy has to say about it. I don't trust him. As to whether your experience is proof that roundballs(or PBs for that matter)are a crippling bullet, thats open for debate, but I would prefer not go into that debate.

Instead I would like to see if you can be a reasonable person. And understand that some one like me who studies and scouts my quarry and gives myself the reliable opportunity to place a capable bullet, at an appropriate place on the animal, at an appropriate range that I have practiced extensively, having 100 % success save one time (which wasn't the fault of the roundball I used) can have an opinion which differs from yours.

Also a person who spends 3 hours to move 200 yards in the woods still hunting in Wisconsin, who places a .54 roundball at 45 yards and witnesses total penetration and exit, ultimately breaking its hind leg, might take issue that a roundball is a crippling projectile.

What I know of your experience is that you and your buddies go out. Two take stands and wait for the other two to booger deer out of their beds while the "standers" wait for deer to run by so that pot shots can be taken at them. You went as far as to say this is the "norm". When you anus shoot one and "miss" two others, you call it great day for gold dots and sing their praises. I am sorry, but I don't consider your experience a reliable as a test of either the performance of roundball, powerbelts, or the gold dot for that matter.

To what ever extent this comes off as being personal, it isn't. I just wholeheartedly disagree with your assessments and conclusions. I am merely disagreeing and stating why I disagree. I honestly can have no faith in your statements of performance on deer you never recovered when you hunt the way you do. I am just waiting for you to say, "Maybe I can't be sure of all of my shots and maybe the choice of projectile would have made no difference" When you say that, then I think you have something very important to contribute to the fawns of this forum.