LOL Well the 1/48 Traditions should probably do better with other than round balls...but these were for my T/C Hawken .54. I have been lookin into another barrel for it an will probably do that at some point. I have just came to the conclusion right or wrong that with ML's you dont have speed so you better have weight. Thats why I been thinking about the 400+ grainers. I have shot a lot of sabots with the inline and it didnt seem like they penetrated good until you hit the 300gr mark for the 50. These are all just random thoughts so feel free to smack me back in line if they are in left field