Welp boys,the charts,personal experiences,and discussion have been presented.The jury is out of session.
I come to the conclusion that I still believe the non access areas of Allegheny county are saving enough deer keep the populations stable.I still say if you opened the whole place up to public hunting like say sproul state forest those numbers would be drastically reduced.
In my closing arguements,I'd like to say that the good habitat and few predators help the fawns of those saved doe survive.On the contrary,I firmly believe the deer populations in the NC were reduced in this order by herd reductions,a few bad winters in relation with some poor habitat.However now in places I no longer feel there are enough hunters to keep those numbers down so factors like poor habitat and predators come into play.
Having said that it's a different story in these southern counties on public land.And as proof if I can find it I can give the link to another forum with pics of rothrock state forest that will show what I've been saying.If anybody is interested PM me and I'll hopefully find you the link.
I want to thank our resident WCO for taking alot of time to post charts and stats on the boards here.It's appreciated.
You boys have a good night .