well true, details would have been alot nicer to begin with, i'm not a big fan of non-papered dogs myself but having the mother and spending a few minutes with the father i guess i can hang on to one pup. i came about them b/c a woman my mother works with bought a choc. male from the dam's first litter and is family with the breeder.so i geta call in november that the breeder asking if she knew of a good home for a female he had who was bred on Nov 25th. well they contacted me knowing i love labradors to death and i called. apparently he had 3 females bred at roughly the same time and didnt have kennel space, so i took her in. i'm happy as heck i did though she's the sweetest, most loving dog i think i've ever seen. so as mentioned i think he's being difficult with any paperwork b/c he dont want me to get anything from the pups.