U talkin hmr or rem? My friend here uses a .17rem for yotes and shoots more yotes than anyone i know combined. He is the largest fur buyer in sask as well so it is his business to knock down the dogs. He has taken over 40 this winter near his yard alone and has been using a .17 for probably over 10 years now. I think if it was a real problem cal he would have swithced by now. He has a pic of his yote carcasses piled up in his yard, the pile is about 6 feet high and spans the whole width of the picture. Don't have the pic myself but i seen it with my own ears.