hehehehe. Well said bigcountry. I don't know what his point is, it seems to go round and round. But I would like to say Jr that my and our for fathers are the ones who really broke there backs for us to have what we have today. Yes we may sweat and do some kind of manual labor, if you can call it that. But we don't know what real back breaking work really is. I know you don't bust your tail being a prison guard, My sister is a sgt at Oklahomas max security prison in Mclaster, and I know they don't break a sweat to often. Unless you get worn out doing a cell check or drinking coffee. My point is made none of us kill ourselfs at our jobs in this day and age.Hard work will move you and yours up the ladder if you know what I mean that goes for all of us. Not all of working men make the kind of money the Bill Gates does. I would like to say I would not like your job at all but you would not like mine. every one has to do something to make a living. bigdaddy