OK, I get the drift. Apples to apples. As much as I'd like to put up an argument for my B/S I recognize some good techie's with more expertise then myself. I'm going to follow your suggestions and tune without it. I will how ever make comparisions to my old way cause I'm such a hard head. Being my hunting is just about over I'll be tuning for target and 3-D. I'll worry about BH's come Sept. I'm only shooting one bow(Merlin Max)the last couple years(unless pinwheel has a good price on a used Lite Storm Duel cam) I've been shooting the same equip. for target,3-D and hunting. I'll be setting up and droping my poundage and shooting a lighter arrow w/a lighter tip and 1.5 feathers. Thanks guys I appreciate all your imput. TO BE CONTINUED. JERRY