I also recommend Danners. I travelled to Cabelas in PA last summer in preparation for a fall Montana guided elk hunt. I tried on the Meindle and they didn't fit well. I settled on a pair of Danner Elk Hunter (600 grams thinsolate) and am really pleased. During the hunt, we got snowed on. Climbing up and down the mountains, my guide was slipping and falling with his boots (his weren't Danners). My boots gripped the sonw-covered rocks like glue. I couldn't have been happier. Best $ I ever spent on equipment!