Yes I agree that the remingtons are weak. And like head siad they are for cowboy actions and older rifles. If you look at some others you will find out they are really a killing machine. Would you shoot a cape buffalo with a .243 ? That is where this round is moving to.There is a story from Africa about a hunter shooting thru two cape buffalo with one shot and killing them both, No I have no way of knowing if that is true but it wouldnt surprise me. Try some buffalo bore ammo and you find a new love for that old timer, make sure it is a rifle that can handle it.