I have a very nice Knight in-line that I love and would recommend to anyone. I wanted to get my dad into ML hunting but did not want to spend that kinda money on him since I did not know if it was something he would like to keep doing. I bought him a CVA wolf and it is a real nice shooter. Puts them in the center out to 100 yards no problem. The thing I dislike about my knight that I love about his is that you need no tools to load the 209 primer. Mine is a pull back bolt style and with the scope on it you can not get your fingers in there to load the primer, if I was to looses the primer loaderin the field, I could not load it to save my life. His is the break open style and you do not have to use a tool. A loading aid is nice, but I hate have to have mine and being screwed if I loose it. Some people think CVA is to cheap and no good, but I was happy with dads and would recommend it to anyone as a great starter ML.