By this I mean for new purchases. This upcoming deer season I have my oldest boy and now my 12 year old nephew to take hunting (plus two more sons in the wings, 9and 7 yr old). I have a .257 roberts (12 year old)and a .270 win (20 year old). That leaves nothing for me, outside of my 12 ga, but I could get a kimber 84 m classic for under $800 in .308 win. The shop is local ~5 minutes from my house but does it make sense to get a .308 anymore? I thought about getting a 7 mm wsm or a .300 wsm but for a 99% pa deer gunin hilly, woodsy areas a mag seems like a waste. I thought about the 338 federalas well. Any other ideas?