I have shot Steel Force 85 gr serrated the last 3 years. I like the fact that they shoot just like my field points and that they are a cut on contact blade. I have awesome penetration with these. A pass through on a steep quartering away mule deer buck at 40 yards. Exited just in front of the opposite shoulder. Also a pass through on a 250 lb black bear standing facing me. Entered 1 inch to the side of the brisket and exited one inck to the opposite side of the spine. 50 yard recovery. Shot another buck quartering to me at 30 yards. through the chest, out the belly, and through the rear leg. Breaking the rear leg as well. 100 yard recovery. Good broadhead, although I wont claim the best because I haven't tested all. I just know that these are very deadly.