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Old 02-08-2007 | 07:37 PM
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I consider fair chase a hunt without ANY fences, without high powered rifles that shoot past 200 yards, without bait, on wild, untamed deer, and if it's completely legal.
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An honest answer............how interesting.

For clarity........ANY fences means what? enclosures or ANY fence at all? (park, house, cow fences, highway fences)

Is it the rifle or the distance of the shot?

Do you consider food plots and scents as "bait"?

What is your definition of "tame" deer?




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If I could shoot 400 yards, it would be ridiculous. I would just be pulling a trigger. I'd have a hundred deer to my name. It's all about outsmarting them and giving them a perfectly unaltered chance to get away. It's no fun to me if it's easy. Furthermore, as of now,I won't use a scope. I hunt with bow and ML exclusively for deer.

It's no fun unless it's a challenge.
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That seems to be a common theme in most opinions.




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This is a place for peoples opinions. Those are mine. I respect everyones.
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Exactly.



First off, I have to draw the line with those fences. If they have wild deer and are humongous in size, then I guessI can't be against them. On the other hand, if they are small(lets say 1000 acres or less) or have pen raised deer you will never hear me approve of them. I really don't like any fences with the intent of keeping the deer in butI have to draw the line at 1000 acres because I don't even hunt an area that big. I don't care if the deer are acclimated to human life in their area as long as they were born wild and still have natural survival instinct. I WON'T condone hunting any pen raised deer. I am not against the killing of it but simply the attitude of the hunter.

So, my approval stretches to places over 1000 acres that are fenced and contain wild deer. If a farmer puts up a cattle fence it is not meant for the same intent as one in a game ranch.

I am not against rifle hunting. I am simply not into it PERSONALLY. I don't see the fun in picking off whitetails from 300 yards. That is no challenge in my mind. If you want to hunt with a rifle, go ahead, as long as it's legal, butI won't consider it as much of a fair chase.

I don't like to hunt with food plots or scents, or calls myself. It takes away from the natural movements of the deer and gives you a cheap advantage. Again, I don't like hunting that way but I'm not against it. If you are happy with that method then fine. I think it takes away from the true nature of stalking them while they're doing their natural things.


I have many methods of hunting that don't feel right to me. To try and name them all would be ridiculous. If the hunt doesn't seem fair chase I won't do it.

Basically, I like to give the deer as much ofa chance for survival asI can. I like the more primitive weapons, catching them in NATURAL patterns, and having as much of a challenge as I can. I do hunt from treestands and use scent elimination and camoflauge so I'm not intolerant of everythingI just don't like to alter a deers natural activities nor attract them nor have any distinct advantage in my weaponry. If it is a truly wild deer and not kept from escape, I will, however, accept anyones methods of hunting to a point. Just because I don't like it for myself doesn't mean I'm always against it. I shared MY IDEAS of fair chase and I hope I don't bother anyone by them. If I do, then learn to be more tolerant.

Good hunting to all. God bless you.
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