The 12 ring on the targets I'm talking about are the size of a quarter.....and if you hit a LITTLE low ot eh 12 ring.....you score 8.

The 14 ring is in the far end of the 8 ring......WAY away from the 10 ring.....and risking a 5 on that target is likely (or an 8).

I'd just have to see it. I don't doubt it.....but I've just never seen that sort of precision shooting. Is this all with hunting rigs??????