I guess what I am calling the "average joe show" is the one where they do chase and shoot trophy game, but also show alot of what goen on beside shooting the animal such as the strategyof how, why they hunt places, and basically educational things people want to know about. When these shows say " yea, and back there we had to crawl over a mess of fallen timber just to get here for the shot; it was a lot of work", I want to see a brief segment of what they went through and not just talk about it. Things do not have to be drug out, but brief and informative. When i address "average joe", I am speaking of hunts they show more than the products, animal kill and it is over.