Ya i guess there were a few spikers and a gaggle of cows. Usually elk tend to keep thema little longer than deer, have seen them packin bone close to april b4. We still have one buck packin but everyone else has dropped since the begining of January. I have an elite on my 7 and like it quite a bit but i have never looked through anything expensive so i don't know what i am missing, my bank account likes it that way.