I was just kiddin bout that banner jd. It's the biggest hunk of junk i have ever used, got it for a song but i guess you get what you pay for.[&:] Pretty bad when you ain't happy with a scope and all your using it for is poppin beavers. On a different note i guess we had some different vistors at the feeder in the yard this morning. 11 elk were in the yard nibbling at 5am this morning and the last spiker left at 8 so they had some good eats. Won't be so cute once they start hitting the second cut round bales.