Fellas...Wholesales/Russels don't carry Nikon, so that option is nul & void. SIR don'thave the model I want[:@]So thats where my desperation is setting in. I'll try the link Skeeter (THX). As for the bushnell Hia, thx but I'm not a fan of their scopes. It'll be either a Nikon or Loopy VXIII (maybea bush elite if all else fails). As for the Cabelas rumors, I've heard them all, including a Bass Pro near Balzac. Still no definate confirmation of where & when either of the big 2 will be coming. Wholesales store is almost done and they will be moving next month. Looks huge!! but probably the same old just a bigger pain in the a$$. E-bay has been iffy lately with scopes, I'm scared of getting screwed out of my $$ if it doesn't get passed the border. Most places are blowing out the old models so there are some great deals out there, just not for us Canucks! Thanks for the info guys!!