ive had a pump mossberg 12 guage for a while. it works nicley on the turkeys but im gona need a new gun because its sights are broke ( has the rail thing on it and its rattley and moves to much to use the sights) so if i cant get it fixed Im looking at a new 12 guage. this time an auto loader. ive handeled a few auto loaders and they are light. the fore grip stocks dont look like they would get to ratteling like the gun i have now. I like the winchester sx3 but they are expencive so i might get a nother mossberg.