In Missouri, I hunt with my 7mm Rem Mag with a Leupold VX II and a 150gr. Winchester Silvertip Bullet. In my homestate of IL, I hunt with my Winchester SuperX2 12 ga. with a cantileavered slug barrel and aBurris Shotgun scope, shooting 2 3/4 inch winchester partition gold slugs. These are hands down the meanest slugs I've ever encountered. When i was younger and still shooting my 20ga., one of these slugs stoned a good sized doe at what the range finder called 157 yards. My dad chewed me out for takin the shot, but there ya have it. This year out of my 12 ga. I dropped a 230 lb field dressed buck at about 95. These slugs hit like a mack truck.