OK, I guess anything could have problems with ice and stuff. I haven't done it yet, but I'm know I'm going to have to have a Guardian. My only concern is I won't beable to put a Muzzy on it. I do love my Muzzy. So, I have to start looking into other drop aways. Len showed me today what he'd put on it... sorry I forget the name, something to do with LIMB or something like that. He put one on the Guardian while I was there. It seemed to work fine.