Hey Jay, thanks for the compliment. I got him in macomb county. Watched him for a cpl of months then he finaly came out with a doe then it took 20 to 30 min. to call him in closer th 250 yards. I had two black powders, the 1st one only the cap poped and he jumped so I set it down and grabbed the 2nd one and dropped him. I too used to shoot at convenient spotsman but shot at starlight for about 15yrs till Charlie past away and the place closed. Happy hunting.