Not yet dead, Dr. Andy. Its beginning to look like this site needs a "Carbon Bashing/Groupie" forum. First off, I have the Scentlok 3D pants and jacket which you can take out the carbon liner. I never wash the carbon liner and try not to 're-activate' it as little as possible. The outer camo clothing gets washed once or twice a year. I don't wear the clothes in hot/warm weather as, at least this set, is better suited for cool/cold weather and I'd be sweating pretty good which would definitely have a negative effect on the carbon. I store the clothes in a scent lock bag. The camo outer shell is the best hunting clothes I've found, for me, carbon liner or not. If I was to design a pants and jacket this set is almost it. So I am completely satisfied with it, whether the carbon works or not. As far as a bunch of technical jargon, I'm not disputing whether its legit or not. I really could care less. EVERY technical data I've seen posted relates to industrial (or such) use of carbon. I've never seen ANY testing done as to whether lower temps (household dryer) can or can not re-activate the carbon contained in these clothes to some degree perhaps being a percentage. I, as well as most people I know that wear scent blocking clothing, have no such fantasy that the clothing is a miracle fabric that will eliminate the smallest ioto of our scent in the presence of a deer. That seems to be what a lot of bashers infer. No such case. What we do believe is that it is another tool we can employ to AID in concealing ourselves. I would also say most of us have hunted without it and had plenty of encounters and interaction with deer to come to some type of valid opinion as to its effects/non-effects. Sightings of more deer, larger deer, and more close encounters without getting winded would cause any sound mind to assess their routines and gear just as not seeing deer or primarily yearlings and getting constantly winded would. When you have a higher percentage of positive field experiences with certain gear you naturally tend to put faith in said gear. Even if its your lucky hat or whatever. So when somebody tells you what you are doing or wearing doesn't work you can only laugh. They can say it a thousand times and a thousand ways but the proof is in the pudding. What gear others use or wear or shoot or whatever or how much they spend, as long as its legal, I could care less. Besides my own experiences with the clothes, I have several friends who wear the stuff and are just as pleased and have had quite similar results. Totally satisfied with their purchase and will purchase again. And it seems the posts I've read on this site alone of people who actually own and have used the clothes, the large majority are also quite satisfied. For anyone who says they own any of it (and has taken care of it) I can only say you should put in the classified section free to anyone who wants to try it. You'll either get a new disbeliever or you may make someone happy. I've given away 2 ready-to-shoot bows, all decent, as well as sights, rests, etc., all for free. I didn't really use so I helped out some fellow hunters. Try it. It feels alot better than pointless arguing.